Ot - I can no longer cut and paste. But while AMD's Ryzen is working in other applications as expected, Intel's I7 is thrashing it in gaming comparisons. AMD acknowledges this and promises a "Power Patch" soon. Last AMD card I had, had so many problems with microsoft-like errors - the new drivers solved some problems, but created bigger ones, leading users to rollback the 'new, better' drivers. 'Beta' became a word that nobody wanted to test out.

But that was a long time ago. And in terms of stock price, AMD holds a huge lead over INTC in stock appreciation.

I'm holding my CIEN shares whose options finished OTM, but the loss of price, sharp and steady, is dismaying. I do hope the analysts who are saying stick with it are right. And NOK is getting street appreciation, in both senses of that word. What  lt cap said about the prospects for the sector, as change is coming faster than expected would be really helpful.