De-dollarization trend
continues
The de-dollarization trend continues. The IMF is likely to add
the Chinese yuan to its basket or reserve currences, i.e. USD,
sterling, yen, euro. China's goal is of course for the yuan
to become the global reserve currency, and Middle East countries
have recently been supporting non-USD oil trades. With the amount
of dollars out there worldwide, if it loses favor confidence in it
could fall quickly. This isn't something which will happen
overnight, but it'll be interesting to see its effect 10 years from
now.
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Agree. I believe (correct me if this is wrong), the
transition from the British Pound to the Dollar took some 15 to 20
years (started with the end of WWII?), I believe that by the time
the 1960s rolled around, the USD was well on its way to becoming
the reserve currency.
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10/23/15 at 10:44 AM CDT
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I'd like to see a long term graph of the pound against a basket
of currencies, but this one against the dollar is still eye
opening. From over $5 in the late 30's to around $1.53 now. The
chart basically reflects the relative decline and growth of each
empire.
miketodd.net/en...st.htm
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10/23/15 at 11:09 AM CDT
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It is a brutal decline and with it the brutal lowering of
standards of living for all Brits, as their currency no longer buys
as much in foreign goods as it used to.
The innevitability of Empires Declines has begun to hit us,
while it does not happen overnight, this past 30 years have had a
brutal effect on those at the bottom of the food chain so to speak,
as their wages have not kept up with inflation and their jobs have
been shipped abroad.
As you and Jamok pointed out, the dollar will eventually lose
its defacto position as the currency of the world.
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10/23/15 at 3:31 PM CDT
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The next 30 years will be worse than the last 30 imo. All those
outsourced jobs are never coming back, and we're about to hit
various walls that weren't even an issue before:
1. Unfavorable demographics, which has been an issue in Japan
for years and is coming to Europe and US very soon.
2. Oil resources. There is currently an over-supply due to the
slowdown, but we are at Peak Oil around now.
3. Water.
4. Social security funding, which will likely mean belt
tightening for many segments of the population either with lower SS
incomes (especially factored against inflation), higher taxes,
etc.
Of course our politicians who are only concerned with winning
their next appointment and kicking the can to the day after their
appointment ends, have done nothing regarding these macro
issues.
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10/23/15 at 4:10 PM CDT
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Jester,
I think of all of the pretty certain things you cite, the last
is probablyy an absolute lock - there is no upside to politicians
not kicking the can down the road, and unless voters become as
sopisticated as many in Europe are (not likely), there is no
incentive for them to do so, except if they really don't care about
getting elected again.
One other issue that I can't see proactive measures even being
much thought about: When a robot is intelligent enough to do your
job (and the predictions from AI experts is that will apply to
white collar jobs eventually, as well as blue collar jobs in
progress), how will you compete against a machine whose maintenance
costs (salary, vacation, benefits, eating, sleeping) etc. may well
make them less expensive than hiring Ethiopians to do the work?
Friend of mine said 'singularity' is inevitable, so that such
machines will be indistinguishable in their abilities from humans.
(e.g., imagine a psychotherapist who is a robot, but hidden from
view, and the patient can't tell whether it is a human or machine
presence that is responding. AI already can compose poetry and
paint pictures that are credible.) And you might notice that a fair
number of the more minor stories you read on sports in newspapers
now has some tag at the front that indicates it was not a human who
composed stats into a narrative story.
The only 'upside' to that I can see is some damn fine computer
games to wade into - if you can afford them.
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10/23/15 at 7:58 PM CDT
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Two more walls:
1.- Medicare
2.- Medicaid
The future looks very troublesome, and as you correctly state,
it goes on and on. As if these walls don't exist. No
leadership and worse yet, a citizenry who also wants to pawn it on
its kids!
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10/24/15 at 5:55 AM CDT
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lt cap,
I did not acknowledge those more closely looming issues of
medicaid and medicare. It'll be interesting, altho possibly
horrifying to watch. I think Alan Simpson (former Sen. Wyoming)
quit the Senate because he said things have deteriorated to
continual games of 'gotcha'. I don't have much love for Hilary
(altho I do think she's a hypocrit and liar, lol) but the political
torture she was subject to leads nowhere. In this kind of political
atmosphere, it's impossible to propose solutions to those
soon-to-arrive problems - what pol wants to give ther other side
trunchons to beat them with? I'm really not sure who gets the shaft
on the Medicare issue - the elderly? (Maybe - I think it's hard to
get far from where the water cannons go off in a walker or a
wheelchair.) Means test for Medicare supplements? (I think that the
most likely, even though the rich have some bucks to spend
politically, and AARP is more oraganized. I personally don't like
that one, as it penalizes the people who worked and saved and
planned for retirement rather than blowing every paycheck as fast
as they could.) Maybe the Medicaid poor are the best targets - a
permanent under-class of homeless people don't present much of a
political threat, unless you've got a conscience, and city planners
can always claim that the concrete beneath bridges was actually
intended as an 'urban housing project' for the destitute.) Where I
live, the city is probably the friendliest to homeless people I've
ever experienced. They get cell phones for free. Busses will come
to pick them up if they're in a crisis. Walk in to stores and try
to walk out with merchandise - rationale is they're 'liberating'
that $3k bike, like in the late '60's. Funniest site is at the
Mission that provides food, and maybe shelter. Around dinnertime,
the 'park lot' is filled to the gills with very expensive bikes.
Walmart and Target have started putting 'lock-up' devices on
shopping carts - if they get further than 100 yards from the store,
the wheel lock up. I dont' mean to mock them so much as some are
real sad cases. But it is considred a kind of 'lifestyle' here. Two
shopping carts tied together is known as the 'poor man's SUV'. At
least no one has defined police brutality as 'the poor man's
'rolfing'. Ive rambled on too long. Any solution doesn't look
like it ends well.
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10/26/15 at 12:24 AM CDT
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lt cap,
I'm not sure it would be accurate to say this, but it occurs to
me: Yes, absolutely - we've already shipped a ton of working class
and middle class jobs overseas, with the beginnings of a
socio-economic dislocation already evident, and bound to get worse,
as the beneficiaries are the owners of the means of production,
while it's the workers who are getting eliminated and screwed.
When the reserve currency change-over to something besides
dollars occurs, we will have, or would about to have, a shipping of
not only jobs, but wealth in large amounts overseas. However, even
if that is so, the range that companies are really international
entities have may be a vehicle for the 1% in the US mitigating the
transfer of wealth outside the US. And if that is so, there still
would be the problem of having so many workers 'disenfranchised' in
the US, that revolution and revolt may not be unthinkable.
Maybe.
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10/23/15 at 4:45 PM CDT
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Jamok,
Unthinkable indeed. With the exception of the civil war,
this country has had a history of civil activism, something that is
mostly dormant. We have seen it flair up in the past 18 months with
events involving the police and blacks.
Given the onerous future we could easily face, it could stair up
a lot of unrest in the country. It would be a sad day if and when
something so tragic as a revolution were to be the result of our
leadership's and citizenry's inactions.
In Greece, the crisis was greatly mitigated by the fact that
there is a safety net. They still have/had plenty of pensions
and social medicine. That safety net prevented what could easily
have resulted in widespread revolt and violence.
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10/24/15 at 7:19 AM CDT
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Jester,
Indeed - As you say, it may take some time - but eventually,
inevitably I think the Yuan at least becomes a large part of the
basket that determines world resereve currency, or takes the title
outright. I think when that time arrives, it will creates havoc
with our markets and our economic strengths (and the 'sins' of our
economy that gets a 'pass' from worldwide investors, producers,
etc.) Maybe it happens sooner. Maybe we never see it after
full transition. But if you have kids, I don't think it'll be
pretty for them. If they're college age, and interested in business
and economics, taking courses in Mandarin might be a good
move.
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10/23/15 at 1:17 PM CDT
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