OT - CIEN option
OT - CIEN - I was looking at option plays. CIEN is current
$23.50, and the Sept. 11th covered calls stk. 23.50 have a $1.35,
or a bit more than 5% premium for 33 days of exposure. Not an
astounding play, but not bad. CIEN has moved downward since the CC,
altho that CC was quite good and resulted in positive analyst
commentary and reaction. As per standard with the sector, it tends
to be volatile. But I'm mulling it - in the long run, it's a good
company in a sector with secular growth inevitable. I do own a bit
of non-trading shares otherwise.
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Jamok,
Knowing nothing about CIEN myself, and just glancing at the
chart, the $23 level is important. That was the high in June last
year, and when it broke over there in May this year it then dropped
back to test that level a month ago. The 100ma is also at $23, and
this was support in April. You might be better off waiting for a
bounce before selling calls. Also, they don't need to be 35 days
out. It has weekly options. Personally, I favor selling 1-3 weeks
out, so you can catch a decent amount of theta premium decay. Or if
it does go below $23 soon and doesn't immediately bounce back over
it, sell $23 calls when it bounces back to that line.
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Author:
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Jester
Debunker
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Off Topic
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Sentiment:
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Neutral
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Date:
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08/10/15 at 2:34 PM CDT
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Thanks for the head's up. I bought 1k and sold the 24's for
1.03. I have a lot of cash currently so figured it was a good play
vs just sitting around.
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Author:
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breinejm
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Off Topic
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Sentiment:
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Neutral
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Date:
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08/11/15 at 9:12 AM CDT
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OT - Jon, per the PM I sent you: I bought 1k CIEN @ 22.85, and
will decide how much and when to option them out. I may take the
long run - i.e. Sept. 11 stk 23.50, as the return is a pretty good
deal, %wise. A smart bird pointed me towards looking 1-3 weeks out,
as the odds become better, which may be a better strategy in terms
of risk/reward/time exposure. The fact that I like the sector, and
CIEN seems poised to be among the 'winners' encourages me. The fact
that they've been in a sharp ST downward trend is not so grand. But
I'm treating it a bit like ALU - long term patience, as I have and
want a non-trading position as well.
Speaking of which, I am somewhat sore tempted to add to ALU here
around $3.55, although I keep remembering that dip into the 3.30's
and 3.40's and wonder if that might not be repeated. Regardless, I
would like to increase my stake opportunistically. I do wonder
whether the market is using the 'crisis of the day' (Greece, then
yuan, probably Ukraine up next - or maybe Iran deal falls apart) as
an excuse to go lower, which might be where it 'wants' to head.
Perhaps it is not of note, but a month or so ago S'Yellen made a
comment about the market 'being fully valued'. I haven't heard a
comment like that from the Fed chair since the late 1990's (I
think), when Greenspan cautioned against 'irrational exuberance'.
just a bit before the market crashed. Given that the Fed chair's
every words are scrutinized under a microscope, I wonder why she
would say such a thing? OTOH, she's clearly said she's ready to do
what's necessary to keep this market afloat.
Speaking of Greenspan - I know a lot of folks don't like him,
and blame him for his non-regulatory stance that led to the 2008
chicanery. I saw some video clips of an interview with him
yesterday on Bloomberg - probably still viewable on their website.
He took possession of some of his misjudgments. He also commented
on what he sees as some serious dangers in the market, starting
with a bond bubble, and that such troubles are inevitable and
unavoidable. Regardless of his actions as Fed chair, I've always
thought he was a very smart guy and worth listening to.
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Author:
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Jam
ok
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Off Topic
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Sentiment:
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Neutral
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Date:
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08/11/15 at 2:37 PM CDT
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