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OT - NOK, INTC,
AMD
OT - Looks like NOK missed on all but 1 metric, if I read it
right - and what seems to have killed them is Suri citing 'pricing
pressures' for 5g, which to me means dreaded price wars for market
share. Fugly day.
INTC - beat on most everything. Saw story that said datacenter
was below expectations, and headlined a 4% aH decline. At the
moment, it's post-that-story, and they're down 1% AH.
AMD - Incredible - up 15% announcing before market open. Appear
to have lots of opportunities, analysts are mostly full of
praise.
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Yahoo Finance has it such that it met revenue and profit
metrics. The currency head winds also made it looked as if
revenue was light. The Euro has dropped some 7% as have many
currencies around the globe.
The articles about the results do in fact mis-characterized much
of this, including not taking into account the currency issues.
That said, the company still has plenty of work ahead, but with 5G
kicking in mildy in the second half, it should get easier.
I too think the reaction to the earnings was overdone. As
I said before, it is the Rodney Dangerfiled of the Networking biz,
hands down.
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Author:
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LongTerm
CapGains
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Neutral
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07/29/18 at 12:11 PM CDT
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BTW, where Nokia did indeed miss was in gross profits, and
important measure. That, mostly because the product mix has
been lousy due mostly to the current low cycle, this should change
as the product mix begins to include the early 5G
deployments. Though that improvement should be a slow
improvement, picking up some steam in the second half of 2019
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Author:
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LongTerm
CapGains
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Neutral
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07/29/18 at 12:31 PM CDT
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lt cap,
Thanks for the view, esp. on NOK. I'm wondering if you have a
view of INFN, which has dramatically dropped from the 10's to the
near-low 8's - I really couldn't find info about how the earnings
went, but from the stock price, it must've been pretty terrible. I
do recall an analyst, several months ago, dropping INFN to
underperform, saying that the performance of their equipment at
this point is just outmatched by their competitors. Don't know how
true that is, but were it to be valid, going into what ought to be
a secular upswing with a rusty gun doesn't allow for any way to
turn things around quickly.
CIEN just dances to its own drummer. After hitting around $27.50
(from memory), it has, bit by bit, slowly retreated into the $25's.
And even less news than the other networking stocks to support
that. I thought hard enough about selling calls when it was past
$27, serious enough to put in bids, but got no takers at my price.
I'm not much concerned about it - I figure to see where it is in
late August, as Sept. (I think) ought to be their earnings, and the
premiums on calls traditionally fatten at that point.
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Author:
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Jam
ok
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Neutral
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07/30/18 at 1:43 PM CDT
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Jamok,
INFN has not reported yet, it does on August 7th, according to
ETrade. This quarter is not going to be so so, I believe 2019
should see an inflection point for a lot of networkers.
Agree with the terrible performance of the stock, it is
dismal. They announced a purchase of Coriant, which was onwed
by a Private Equity outfit that put together assets they bought
from Siemens and the old Telabs. I am not so sure it is or is
not a good move, time will tell. It is an attempt to
diversify their portfolio such that they are not a one trick
pony.
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Author:
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LongTerm
CapGains
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07/31/18 at 7:17 AM CDT
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The main problem NOK has is credibility, its CEO did not
properly communicate how bad the cycle would be, so it has been
some three years of terrible losses for the stock price and every
quarter Suri would drivel more bad news, that frankly is not the
way to manage expectations. Now the market just wants to see
more than he is delivering, plain and simple.
It will take real and tangible turnaround in the second
half 2018 or first half of 2019 for the market to give NOK any
credit.
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Author:
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LongTerm
CapGains
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Neutral
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07/31/18 at 7:31 AM CDT
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