Ugh, might have to bite the bullet and unload more INFN.

from the CIEN CC:

Paul Silverstein -- Cowen and Company -- Managing Director

Thanks, guys. A handful of discrete questions. First off, can you characterize pricing environment and have you seen any change in pricing behavior from Coriant/Infinera? ...

Gary B. Smith -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Let me run through the first one. On the pricing environment, overall, the dynamics that we're seeing are not new, and so, I would say no real changes in the overall pricing environment. You've still got some very desperate competitors out there, and that dynamic is still in play, but as Scott commented, I think it's now about a flight to quality, and folks that are going to be around can sustain their roadmap and have got global scale, so that dynamic has not particularly changed.