Re G5: When is indeed the $$$ Question.  Re INFN, it is still so low that when  it restores the revenue growth, it should head much higher.  They just announced their DTN-X with Terabit line card that allows the DTN-X to scale up to 12Tb IIRC.  This is the product that the management allegedly stated many customers had delayed purchase for.  If true the inflection point in revenues should be a quarter or two away.